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This is the thread to discuss newly contracted players or transfer rumors about players possibly moving to Ajax...
I'll kick it off with the announcement that Ajax has confirmed (Leo Beenhakker said it) that Ajax wants to add a central forward to the squad, on loan, for the remainder of the season. This can not be a player from any other league than the Dutch Eredivisie, as the international transfer window is already closed.
So, it will have to be a striker currently playing in Holland. In fact, Beenhakker said that Ajax want a Dutchman. They need an extra striker now that Machlas is loaned out to Sevilla (all he does is sit on the bench, btw) and Mido is banned for the rest of the season.
Two names have been mentioned so far: SC Heerenveen's Romano Denneboom, but Ajax announced several hours later that this will not happen, because Heerenveen don't want to let him go on loan (they only want to sell, which Ajax don't want). The second name is Rick Hoogendorp, currently playing for RKC Waalwijk.
This would be a nightmare to me, to be honest. I understand we have to do something, but in that case let's try to get Anastasiou from Roda or whatever. Not Hoogendorp and definitely not Denneboom (and don't even mention the name of Dirk Kuyt; I don't want one of those Utrecht bulldogs. He's currently talking with feienerd, which is where he belongs, I suppose, they might as well buy Stijn Vreven also).
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3rd March 2003, 05:18 PM |
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As long as he isn't cup-tied, I think Anastasiou would be a far better option. Hoogendop isn't so maybe that's why Ajax is looking at him as an alternative.
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4th March 2003, 08:48 PM |
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From football.nl I got a rumout that Real Madrid are interested in buying Chivu in a "cash plus player deal". Who would that player be? Who from Madrid wants to come to us?
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5th March 2003, 12:57 PM |
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I've read posts in some Spanish bulletin board that Kaka's name had been mentioned as part of this possible package deal.
Oh well, whether it's true or not, I'd very much prefer to have Chivu stay on but it appears that the Ajax board had already decided that he is to leave...
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5th March 2003, 06:56 PM |
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Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Chivu stay, I just wanted to know who'd make the move from Madrid to A-dam.
I'm not that sure that Chivu will go after this season, maybe I'm just being naive but I have him pinned down for one more after this one.
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5th March 2003, 08:42 PM |
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Per,
When I said "Ajax Board" I should've been clearer, by saying "Ajax Board of Directors".
I know that you would prefer to have Chivu stay.
But the board of directors are shoving him out, along with Didulica and now possibly Bergdolmo.
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5th March 2003, 08:45 PM |
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As I have studied economics (among other things) for over four years I do understand what a board is.;)
I was merely claryfiing my viewpoint as I, from your post, got the feeling that it wasn't really clear.
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5th March 2003, 08:49 PM |
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Honest question:
from where (in between which lines) did you get the info that the board is forcing him out?
Did I miss something?
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5th March 2003, 09:32 PM |
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It's a sarcastic remark.....
...because even if Chivu had made the announcement that he wants to stay in A'dam, I still believe that Beenhakker & Co will still be shopping his services to interested clubs.
a similar case is Didulica. The only reason Lobont is the starting goalkeeper is not based on the merit of his talents, but on the player's worth and - here's the key statement -just how much the Ajax board decides he's worth paying for.
Of course, none of this is new. Like the cycle of life, one player must pave the way for others to grow and mature within the Ajax infrastructure.
The infrastructure that it is today calls for players to be (eventually) sold for a profit, or in today's economic enviroment, sold to reduce the club's financial deficit.
Logical as it sounds from a financial point of a view, but still aggravating for the supporters !
While some might argue that in keeping Chivu we might become the best in Europe and beyond, and advancement in the CL will bring in the much needed Euros.
And this is a very touchy subject.
But still the bigger questions is, who is in control of the final decision of which players stay or leave in Ajax ?
If Koeman wants Joey to be his no.1 keeper, and Beenhakker determines that Lobont is the better value for money, then who gets the final say ??
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5th March 2003, 09:52 PM |
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When does Chivu's contract end? I would understand selling him to a profit one season prior to it ending in order not to let him go as a bosman but otherwise.....why would they let him go?
(I don't understand the analogy of Joey D. His contract is ending, they couldn't agree on a new deal, why not let Bogdan get warm in the new suit?)
Its' not not like his market value is going to sink lower than it is now. Given the recent circumstances you don't get the same amount of cash for players you used to and thats even more a reson for waiting to sell him.
But this is all a hypothesis given his contract doesn't end in the near future, I'm sure you can fill me in on the details regaring this.
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6th March 2003, 01:32 PM |
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I'm not exactly sure when Chivu's contract expires.
But about the JoeyD scenario, because both parties - Ajax & Joey's representatives - cannot agree on a figure, we're left with a second best option, which is Lobont.
Unless Joey is asking for the sky in terms of wages, which I don't think so, we are compromising quality for the bottom line. It's all understandable but not necessarily agreeable, in terms of sporting excellence.
Here's the catch - Chivu's price tag MAY actually sink due to transfer market value. So the Ajax board is probably keeping a keen eye on this, hence their eagerness to shop his services arund.
Just what me thinks...;)
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6th March 2003, 03:15 PM |
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Quote: Originally posted by sonicdream2
Here's the catch - Chivu's price tag MAY actually sink due to transfer market value.
But this is what I don't understand? What do you mean?
The prize tag is decided by his market value. Today the player market, in which he is valued, is very unstable. The prices have dropped, a lot less players are being sold etc. etc. I don't see why his market value would sink lower than it is?
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6th March 2003, 05:06 PM |
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I think my friend SonicDream 2 is refering to Jorge Valdano , Real Madrid executive, commenting that the asking price for Christian Chivu is too high; leading to speculation that he won't be a target of theirs. Since Real has always been looked at as one of those clubs, if not the club who set the bar for high dollar transfers, such comments could mean that Chivu's price could drop...because the price clubs will pay would be less than what Ajax wants.
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6th March 2003, 05:08 PM |
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I thought Chivu's deal was until 2006 .But, as with so many things,I could be wrong.
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6th March 2003, 05:24 PM |
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Exactly my point, if Real aren't ready to pay dollars he's not worth them, that's what a MARKET means. As his price isn't what they want it to be at the current time, why sell him?
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